Comic 1109 - Voyage

6th Aug 2018, 7:03 AM in Spirit of Adventure
Voyage
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Lackinganame 5th Aug 2018, 7:03 AM edit delete
Lackinganame
Look at that water! LOOK AT IT!!

Well time for a new chapter and something new in the extra gallery, someone is making their extra debut. Leaping into action

Now for my thoughts on last week wow events. Ok did we really need to wait a week for four quests to finish up the war of thorns? Kind of lame, also that saylvanes, guess she's way to "morally gray" for my liking. Now that aside I should point out that after watching a brake down of extra story telling for Bellulargaming. He brought to light somethings I didn't know about and made good points with in game story telling and how key details can bring into focus character actions more.

If the Saylvanes short was all we got this week I would actually be disappointed but we where saved! If you haven't seen the old solder cinematic then you are missing out big time! We get a high render troll! We also get Saurfang moving more to the front of the story. I really do hope we get so see more of him as the expansion goes on. And I hope we don't have another Garrosh deal again with us all raiding against Saylvanes as the last raid boss again. I hope she steps aside and let's us have another better raid boss and a story that dosen't shoe horn the horde in as villeins.

Moving on to speculation now. I hope as things move on we see Saylvanes deposed of quickly and with out much incident. We then have Saurfang take the lead and the the ball is passed for Alliance story telling. They can't get the tree back, it's on fire. But the person who ordered that act has been deposed of. So do they attack and increase war efforts against the Horde who now has a leader that was opposed to the burning and killing of innocence. Or do they decide that all horde are guilty because it took an army to commit that act? Like I said this would allow for Alliance story telling and even a chance for them to be a little "morally gray" But then things could be complicated more because well the horde deposed of a leader they didn't felt was dishonorable, what if the alliance didn't? (note I consider the attack on undercity a reasonable act of war, the "morally gray" would need to be a different action all together that was equal to intentional killing of none combinations with out reasonable cause.)

(next update 8-13-18)

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Maryalee 6th Aug 2018, 6:54 PM edit delete reply
Maryalee
Lot of water. Lot of it. They better not be heading to Kul'Tiras.

I have never liked Sylvanas. Not as a character, not as an archetype. I have never trusted Sylvanas to have the good of the Horde, over the good of the Forsaken; or, really, the good of Sylvanas. She's been running scared of that Void she experienced at Icecrown that her actions have become too predictable. Enslave Valkyr to serve as regeneration engines for the Forsaken, then sacrifice 3 of them for her own life. Scuttle the Horde's efforts to seek the aid of the Valkyries in Stormheim by striking an underhanded deal with Helya to gain immortality. At every step Sylvanas can be counted on to take care of Sylvanas.

I don't understand the concept that Sylvanas could be "morally gray." People who try to walk that premise never played Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne. THAT was Sylvanas. That was deathly evil, with no gray. The only way Sylvanas survives as leader of the Horde after this war is if Blizzard pulls an unbelievable 180 that is so far out of character, and such a slap in the face of lore that it destroys all concept of continuity. Not saying this group is incapable of that, I just don't see how the story survives it.
JSStryker 6th Aug 2018, 10:01 PM edit delete reply
I think Sylvanas will survive the war but she won't be the Warchief, I suspect she will be on the run from both sides and will end up at ICC where she will kill Bolvar and and assume the mantle of "Lich Queen" and then we will be off to the races in Northrend again.
Maryalee 7th Aug 2018, 7:30 PM edit delete reply
Maryalee
If Sylvanas gets to kill Bolvar before I do then I'm going to be really pissed. I want that ass to pay for his "Let's have a party at Light's Hope Chapel" idea. That piece of betrayal is why I sat out the Death Knight class campaign.

What Blizzard could do, if they were really serious about character development, is not have Sylvanas so much as "run" from both sides. It would be a step in the right direction were she to realize that her being leader has polarized and enraged the Alliance to the point they pose a serious threat to the Horde. To the point where there is a real possibility the Horde would die, just as Vol'jin feared. It would be good storytelling for Sylvanas to make that realization and then step aside in favor of another, Saurfang would work, in a move that actually *would* show concern for the entire Horde.

That would solve one problem.

The Alliance, and I mean *Anduin* strictly here, might cease at the entreaty of a penitent Warchief. Might. But the Alliance will never let Sylvanas go now. Tyrande would kill Anduin herself before she let him pardon the one who destroyed her home and murdered her people. Sylvanas has to pay for that; I don't see any plot twist that is going to get her off the hook.

And if she did become a fugitive, what of the Forsaken? Do we assume they would just allow The Dark Lady to go on her own? At the least I would expect some type of fracture within the Forsaken in-game. Player Forsaken would obviously have to remain with the Horde, but would some of the Forsaken decide to go into seclusion with Sylvanas and become their own sub-faction of a sub faction? Sounds intriguing until you realize it's way too complicated for Blizzard to ever pull off and we're probably getting something stuffed into a sausage casing instead.
Lackinganame 7th Aug 2018, 4:53 PM edit delete reply
Lackinganame
I think everyone is putting bets on how and when Sylvanas is going out.

Me I think 8.2 will deal with her removal and a new warchief being placed.

But here is a question, could Vol'jin make a comeback? After all, "Darkspear never die."
Maryalee 7th Aug 2018, 6:52 PM edit delete reply
Maryalee
There are very subtle hints that Vol'jin's spirit may play a part in BfA. Speculation is that his spirit is so strong, in fact, that it could be that he has been elevated to a LoA himself. If dat be de case, ah kin tink o' a number o' folk who should watch dey backs.
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